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Why Posterous instead of Sweetcron

Various people have asked me this so I thought I would write something here.  Recently I switched to Posterous from another platform called Sweetcron.

Sweetcron is an open source lifestreaming application that pulls in and displays content you post across the web, like your tweets, flickr photos, youtube vids etc.  Ordinarily it wouldn't warrant an explanation when some guy switches platforms for his personal site.  The difference in this case is that I am the author of Sweetcron.  Here are a few reasons why I switched.

I prefer hosted services

I am willing to trade a lesser degree of flexibility (flexibility that I don't particularly need) in order to outsource to a convenient, hosted solution.  This is a trade-off you begin to make more and more of as you get older, I think.  I no longer want to mess around with installing software for my personal blog.  I just want to let someone else take care of it.

Also, since I make my own hosted software now (Peashoot and the upcoming Seashell) it feels good to support the movement :)

Lifestreaming seemed very impersonal 

If I'm honest, I started lifestreaming for me, not my audience.  There's definitely a strong value proposition for blog owners who are thinking to switch to a stream - it's maintenance free.  No more writing blog posts!  That value doesn't translate into audience value so well, though.  I think my audience quickly got bored of seeing blurry food snapshots or out-of-context quips from my Twitter feed.  Your mileage may vary.

Ironically, whereas a lifestream was supposed to be an intimate, personal insight into an individual's life... the lack of real audience interaction meant it ended up as quite an impersonal experience.

Posterous is totally awesome

The Posterous team have built a great product.  I was in love 10 minutes into using it.

So where does that leave the Sweetcron project?

That's the magic of open source - it can be taken anywhere.  The code will live at Google Code indefinitely.  Fork it, repackage it - you can do anything.  I just won't be updating it anymore.

Will I be abandoning Peashoot and Seashell too?

Absolutely not.  The SaaS model has been a very good fit for me and I'm 100% focused on it now.  Ideally, I want a family of 3 apps by this time next year, which I will run as a going concern for the foreseeable future.

Comments (25)

Nov 08, 2009
Foomandoonian said...
Didn't you want to have a family of 8apps at one point too?
Nov 08, 2009
Ty Robinson said...
thanks for explanation, although I loved SC, I agree with your sentiments. I too love Posterous so far, and hope it continues to grow and be refined.
Nov 08, 2009
Garry Tan said...
We're incredibly flattered! Thanks for choosing Posterous -- sweetcron is a design inspiration.
Nov 08, 2009
Kris Freedain said...
good write up. Was wondering about your conversion given the Sweetcron angle. (been thinking of going full posterous myself)
Nov 08, 2009
Jay Jaboneta said...
Posterous is COOL! =)
Nov 08, 2009
Bryan Mcdonald said...
I was a little surprised when I saw you had switched from Sweetcron to Posterous. Great explanation, thanks for letting us know.
Nov 08, 2009
Malcolm Bastien said...
Very cool. Anything you miss?
Nov 08, 2009
Bradley Farless said...
Posterous is definitely a great platform. I agree with your idea about lifestreaming being a tad impersonal as well.
Nov 08, 2009
ecaloshay said...
I noticed you were trialling Tumblr at one point too. What were the differences between Tumblr and Posterous that made you pick one over the other?
Nov 08, 2009
Leif Mohn said...
Great point about making trade-offs for flexibility you don't need. I have to admit that I've rediscovered the simple pleasure of task management with orchestratehq.com. I'm planning on using it for some upcoming projects
Nov 08, 2009
mark said...
I miss 8apps. I was in the beta club for it.
Nov 08, 2009
mw said...
i second ecaloshay's comment about your thoughts on Tumblr vs. Posterous. I would be interested in hearing your thoughts.
Nov 08, 2009
yongfook said...
Rolling out a laundry list of features for both systems doesn't sound very fun. Just try out both services. They are free. One might fit you better - for me, that service was Posterous.

Briefly, I think I just like its outward simplicity but underlying complexity. Also with Tumblr, although it has many similar features, I didn't like the compartmentalization of content into things like "quotes" or "video" etc.

Nov 08, 2009
roycifer said...
sucks you wont be continuing development of sweetcron (though glad that its open sourced so someone can).

in my mind, a lifestream was never meant to replace the blog (or capable of), but to act as more of a one-stop archive of activity throughout the web. when i came across sweetcron, it was exactly the type of product i was looking for. everything else was too much or too little.

i do agree that a lifestream is rather impersonal and doesnt have much practical value. again, that goes back to it being simply an archive. its essentially an unexciting log of internet activity. and, well, logs are unexciting by nature.

i came across sweetcron with those understandings and still love sweetcron!

how about a hosted version of sweetcron? #milliondollaridea

Nov 08, 2009
yongfook said...
roycifer > someone could do that, I'm sure. it's definitely not on my agenda though. It's too mass-market. With Peashoot and Seashell I'm targeting smaller, more manageable niches and it's working out very nicely so far.
Nov 08, 2009
ecaloshay said...
That "Briefly" paragraph is what I was looking for. Thanks. :)

I just signed up to Posterous for a stickybeak and I see what you mean. Alas, there has to be a point where I stop migrating platforms. And I've got this nice little follower/following thing going as it is...

(Comment post attempt round 3? This time without twitter... as an aside, if it fails to post to the 3rd party site it should tell you what went wrong and not just clear your comment entirely...)

Nov 08, 2009
Martin said...
I loved sweetcron, thanks for the great software. now i'm on posterous too, it's really smart and a good alternative to that "oldschool" lifestreaming.
Nov 09, 2009
Max said...
Looking forward to playing with http://seashellapp.com/ , liking the cute logo so far. "Seashell" because you built the entire app using your new eeepc? ;)

Cheers,
Max

Nov 09, 2009
FashionPenny said...
Roycifer said:
i do agree that a lifestream is rather impersonal and doesn't have much practical value. again, that goes back to it being simply an archive. its essentially an unexciting log of internet activity. and, well, logs are unexciting by nature.

i came across sweetcron with those understandings and still love sweetcron!

how about a hosted version of sweetcron? #milliondollaridea

______________________________________________________________
YES,YES & ANOTHER YES!!!!

I am finalizing a mash-up using a modified multi-user sweetcron which is fully controlled from word-press admin & i mean in each and every way starting with the header elements all the way to single row control ,he type of rows and the content they display ,to mcuh to mention .
WE did not pay to much attention to the design factor yet ( the design is not bad just keep in mind its fully dynamic) . At the end of this comment i will post a link hoping everyone will keep in mind its stil a prototype & would not be shown yet if not for this post.

What you will see is a demo that is fully controlled from wp-admin in each and every way.
WE are not looking to use sweetcron as a self stream.
We have a modded MUlti USER SC and instead of following multi users streams it will be used to follow topics . This was build for my experiment on twitter . The experiment was about creting a marketplace around social -sensitive data streams.
We picked counterfeits and @fakepolice was created in order to experiment with data related to counterfeit goods exposure and original goods promotion. We are not talking about just brand name clothing which has cancer causing toxic dye in it if counterfeited but also medication where in the states 7% of all med's in hospitals are fake, the worst thing is no one knows which 7% !

We now have plans to set up a community network using multi user sweetcron paired with a wordpress MU & buddypress which will create a community of hosted blogs with lifestreams to be used as topic agrigators...
no more hosting,no more installations, no more theme customization unless you want to and an overall solution for many , especially the lower sill user..

So far there are 4 of us me Robert Vayner (founder) & 3 other developers. We are always looking for others to join us because we all have other commitments and are doing this on the side when we have time , this will be a free service with some pro options but when all is said and done no one will have to self-host anything or install. A simple membership will give you a hosted blog (thesis framework theme based blog which is something very special !) & a hosted SC TOPIC or LIFE stream solution all set up and inter-graded as a wordpress plugin which is due to be released by end of the year.
We will soon make the demo public and we will also create a clone which will be made in to an Enterprise app as we will be injecting a marketplace and will publicly demo how one can make money with our little app. In this case the project will be exposing all counterfeit related activity,supliers,product & promoting originality.

Once its turned on it will create an instant hub of very targeted activity which provides an immediate opportunity for a marketplace because where there are people who got burned by fakes , there are people who want authentic s and there will be vendors who will provide them !

still prototype stage with dummy content www.ftomatic.com/lifestream

Nov 09, 2009
Denton Gentry said...
In the 1990s I thought it was neat to run my own SMTP, IMAP, and HTTP servers in my house. Ten years later, I realized that was ridiculous and I should let somebody else deal with the spam/maintenance/patching. Hosted services are awesome.
Nov 09, 2009
JM said...
I would agree that the lifestreaming model leaves a bit to be desired - maybe useful on a sidebar but original content is still a greater driver I feel. Probably one reason why I can't get into Twitter - seems like so much cataloging rather than real thought. Thanks for explaining the switchover more clearly. I had asked out of curiosity on a previous post. Looking forward to the new apps from you.
Nov 09, 2009
For many people this change is appropriate, but for now, Sweetcron is still the way to go for me. At the moment I'm not writing a lot of original content, so a blog isn't for me.

I do however post on a lot of various social networks. Sharing relevant information I find to friendfeed, twitter etc. For those who don't use those services, but still want to stay informed on that information, they go to my site (running sweetcron) or follow my RSS for that category.

I'm currently using a lot of filters so that only important posts make it to my sweetcron, so there isn't, for example, a long series of tweets. As well I find myself manually editing a lot of the entries. Hoping to create a bookmarklet for sweetcron soon, and improve the filters, to help with this. Just wanted to say there's still a place for Sweetcron :)

Nov 12, 2009
working with sweetcron we see that is more efficient to agregate event/comercial data than personal data examples -> galanvive.com, 100porcientocafedecolombia.com (yes Colombian Coffee) :-)
Nov 18, 2009
You didn't need to share all this rationale, but it's awesome that you did. Sweetcron is already creating a great legacy and you've only just begun.

Personally, I'm using Sweetcron for some future AI's benefit. I'm just attempting to putting as much of my activity into a single stream as possible. If that interests some readers, then great; if not, that's okay too. If my CSS skills weren't so lacking, it would even be more human readable.

I do try to keep the content semi-pertinent to a few core academic interests, but other than that, it's an experiment who's design is yet to come, subject to the availability of tools yet to emerge. ;-)

Onward!

Jan 06, 2010
neononcon said...
if i would have known you were going to get rid of sweetcron, i would have saved your stylesheet! i wanted to borrow some things =(

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